What do we call the areas south of Cermak? I really believe that the South Loop extends to the physical border of Interstate 55. When you walk over the bridge, you are in Bronzeville. In the future when real estate starts to bloom south of 22nd, the real estate industry will adopt the South Loop moniker to this area.
100% agree. If you say Cermak/22nd there is no point in not including 23rd and 24th as this will eventually (some day!) be where restaurants, bars are going to fill in.
Printer's Row is not a subset of the South Loop. It has been around longer than the South Loop. Just look at any Chicago Neighborhood Map. Dearborn Park I is not part of the South Loop either. 'The Loop' goes all the way to Roosevelt.
The loop goes all the way to Roosevelt? Nope! You clearly have no idea where the term "loop" comes from... i.e. the loop of el tracks that go through downtown. Duh.
Hey anonymous, Duh, I know where the term 'loop' originated, but it has grown over the years to include areas near and around the CBD. http://www.bigstickinc.com/images/largeview_chicago2.jpg If you view this map in real life (the image here is fuzzy) you will see that not only does the loop encompass more area than the elevated tracks, it has printer's row and dearborn park listed as well.
By my count, that wikipedia link provides 3 different definitions for the "Loop." So, obviously opinions vary. That said, I doubt most people would describe the Loop's south boundary as Roosevelt Road... Congress seems a more logical boundary for Chicago's Central Business District/Loop.
But good for you charles, I'm glad you found someone on that internet that agrees with your boundaries of the Loop. Hooray for you! Three claps for charles!
And who cares what Wikipedia says? Is that YOUR litmus test for determining if something is true? If so, that is terribly sad.
Wikipedia is no more an authority on the boundaries of any neighborhood in Chicago than you or I.
And, I think when it comes to neighborhood boundaries, it actually does matter what people think, since people are the ones that define neighborhood boundaries.
I'll take the opinions of all the Chicagoans I know about what the boundaries of the Loop are over some anonymous Internet "encyclopedia" any day.
roosevelt road is the north border of south loop!!!
ReplyDeleteNo, it's not.
ReplyDeleteI agree. If you can't see the loop, then you aren't in the south loop.
ReplyDeleteWhat do we call the areas south of Cermak? I really believe that the South Loop extends to the physical border of Interstate 55. When you walk over the bridge, you are in Bronzeville. In the future when real estate starts to bloom south of 22nd, the real estate industry will adopt the South Loop moniker to this area.
ReplyDeletethe area north of roosevelt is called the printer's row NOT south loop.
ReplyDelete100% agree. If you say Cermak/22nd there is no point in not including 23rd and 24th as this will eventually (some day!) be where restaurants, bars are going to fill in.
ReplyDeletePrinters Row is a sub-division of the South Loop that is bordered by Clark, State, Congress & Polk
ReplyDeleteJust to fan the flames...I can see the Willis tower from 355. I suppose that means 355 is in the loop?
ReplyDeletePrinter's Row is not a subset of the South Loop. It has been around longer than the South Loop. Just look at any Chicago Neighborhood Map. Dearborn Park I is not part of the South Loop either. 'The Loop' goes all the way to Roosevelt.
ReplyDeleteI looked at several maps, and I don't see Printer's Row or Dearborn Park separately listed.
ReplyDeleteThe loop goes all the way to Roosevelt? Nope! You clearly have no idea where the term "loop" comes from... i.e. the loop of el tracks that go through downtown. Duh.
ReplyDeleteHey anonymous,
ReplyDeleteDuh, I know where the term 'loop' originated, but it has grown over the years to include areas near and around the CBD.
http://www.bigstickinc.com/images/largeview_chicago2.jpg
If you view this map in real life (the image here is fuzzy) you will see that not only does the loop encompass more area than the elevated tracks, it has printer's row and dearborn park listed as well.
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ReplyDeleteseems like Wikipedia got it correct :-)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_Loop
Well if wikipedia said it, it must be true!
ReplyDeleteBy my count, that wikipedia link provides 3 different definitions for the "Loop." So, obviously opinions vary. That said, I doubt most people would describe the Loop's south boundary as Roosevelt Road... Congress seems a more logical boundary for Chicago's Central Business District/Loop.
But good for you charles, I'm glad you found someone on that internet that agrees with your boundaries of the Loop. Hooray for you! Three claps for charles!
Who cares what 'most people' think?
ReplyDeleteIs that your litmus test for determining if something is true?
If so, that is terribly sad.
And who cares what Wikipedia says? Is that YOUR litmus test for determining if something is true? If so, that is terribly sad.
ReplyDeleteWikipedia is no more an authority on the boundaries of any neighborhood in Chicago than you or I.
And, I think when it comes to neighborhood boundaries, it actually does matter what people think, since people are the ones that define neighborhood boundaries.
I'll take the opinions of all the Chicagoans I know about what the boundaries of the Loop are over some anonymous Internet "encyclopedia" any day.
Thanks for playing.